Languages themselves, too: Go 1.7 just came out, but the test lists Go 1.6.2. Rust 1.11 just got released yes? 1.9 (!) is used. Love to see both of those bumped to current.
A day later they announce Power Shell is open source.
I remember a few months ago they blasted HN's frontpage with news after a few discussions about telemetry and EEE (first wave of Windows 10/UWP showing its true colors).
I don't care enough to do a reddit-esque investigation on HN stories. I just find it funny, that's all.
You are definitely not crazy nor alone with watching these PR tactics. I dislike that so many MSFT employees/puppets/bots/fanboys frequent HN since Build conference 2015. I would prefer the HN of pre-Spring-2015 with news about venture capitalists, startups and software that matters to startups - and not corporate PR about software that doesn't make sense for startups. See how MySpace lost, look what software stack they used and how it burned through cash because of very expensive license fees, compare it to Facebook. Everyone who got burned by the Seattle guys once usually learn and avoid getting burned again.
IMO it does not matter what other people are doing. I'm paying for this software so I want control (over my own hardware). Mobile is a lost cause but I literally can't afford to fight my desktop OS. It must work and be reliable.
Maybe I would accept forced security updates if they allowed live updates. Having to restart your computer is awful.
But that's not even the worse problem. It reset settings, install things you removed, services you don't want, remove features you had before for no reason. Not to mention drivers and all the update problems people are reporting. If there's a chance to break, I must be able to choose when I want to upgrade.
I'm willing to pay more for not having to worry about telemetry, MS account and all that bs.
Right? That's something about Windows that I hate; having to restart for an update.
Microsoft, with it's endless supply of money, is somehow completely incapable of live OS updates?
Hell, Linux has live updates; I don't even have to restart to update my kernel! I would expect Microsoft to somehow take this existing technology, cater it to their system and call it a brand new feature like they did with the resizable command prompt. "Look at this revolutionary thing we're doing in Windows 10!"
Obviously I'm generalizing or assuming that they would be able to do it; I know nothing of how Windows works. It could be impossible without completely rewriting the entire thing. It's just my ultimate pet peeve about Windows.
Restarting a modern windows PC these days just takes a few seconds, its not a big problem. Updating my mac still requires restarts and hell, even ubuntu requires reboots. Not everyone ksplices their system and even ksplice warns you a reboot is the best option.
If you think the resizable window is all they did with windows10, you're sorely mistaken :) Windows is moving to a shared kernel (minwin) that works on servers, pcs, desktops, phones, consoles and hololens. If you write an app for UWP it can be installed on all of these devices and has interfaces to operate natively on them. UWP is sandboxed too so its more secure than Win32.
MS is moving to a quick release cadence where the patches aren't just bug fixes, but they're actually pumping out feature after feature and fixing bugs / requests submitted through the insider program.
They're adding / fixing html issues in edge, plugins for edge, increasing features to UWP apis, adding support for devices/cpus, streamlining gaming support.
It takes my surface pro 4 about 3 seconds to go from off to logged in using my face. Each update has improved the experience from what was "Cool" but barely worked to now just working all the time and now supporting biometric authentication for web apps and other features - because they have updated and patched the OS to integrate such.
anywho.. i love computers.. i run windows, i'm typing this on my macbook and i'm playking pokemon on my iphone and my day job is running thousands of centos and ubuntu workstations.
tired of this misguided rage and jumping to assumptions. we as a community should be better than this.
> Restarting a modern windows PC these days just takes a few seconds, its not a big problem
> It takes my surface pro 4 about 3 seconds to go from off to logged in using my face
And what proportion of Windows users in the world have SSDs, latest-gen Intel processors, and Intel RealSense cameras?
And even being okay with the time it takes to reboot, it is not okay to have all of one's work suddenly interrupted by an insolent piece of software (that is supposed to be working for the user).
>"MS is moving to a quick release cadence where the patches aren't just bug fixes, but they're actually pumping out feature after feature and fixing bugs"
Since when did actually knowing what you're talking about become shilling?
MS has moved to a release cadence that pushes out new features annually in major updates (anniversary updates) - and on patch tuesdays for other updates.
These other updates can include new drivers, new firmwares, fixes to windows runtime, new windows runtime apis (they're always adding to the bluetooth stack so on and so forth), updates to browser, updates to store, updates to services/tooling.
They've been working on docker support, built in linux support (ubuntu bash is awesome), they have been optimizing how store apps are packages/compiled/distributed/updated..
if shilling means calling you out as an ignorant hater, i'll happily shill away.
>I know nothing of how Windows works. It could be impossible without completely rewriting the entire thing. It's just my ultimate pet peeve about Windows.
I imagine the Windows sourcecode to be a total clusterfuck shitshow, with all the ancient code and exception cases.
I doubt you could make live updates work without a major redesign, which would inevitably break a lot of stuff that people actually use.
I think requiring the user to boot a Linux live CD and do some voodoo would be enough. Computer would have to self destruct if you failed the steps tho.
ChromeOS is just as bad with spying as Windows 10 (or worse considering how much other information Google has to tie to you. Apple is well on their way to making their upcoming OS similar as well. We live in a world now where most people are conditioned NOT to pay for software, and don't mind being "the product" for free services. For those that do mind being data mined there are fewer and fewer options every day.
No shit. I was just trying to avoid the year of the linux desktop meme, since I gave up on that already, while also doubting that "they" are going to ditch Windows.
Honestly, I do not know. Telemetry isn't my biggest gripe with Windows 10, but besides that at some point the only version of Windows with security support will be Windows 10 or some descendant of it and I have no reason to believe my issues with 10 will be fixed by then.
As I said elsewhere, I'd love to be *nix only but my gaming preferences will not allow it.
I wouldn't mind paying twice the price of Windows 10 Pro if I could select what I want installed and the OS respected that. No telemetry, no Cortana, no Windows Stores apps if I need to have a MS account. No missclick-based features (you click yes and suddenly your local account is now an online account).
Since I'm stuck with this crap forever (Adobe, Office, games, etc) at least let me pay you not spy on me and install your crapware. And let ME control MY PC.
I bought a really cheap Windows machine a year ago, curious about Windows 10 (I have Linux on it now). I bought it directly from Microsoft's store, and as a 'signature edition', it had no 3rd party crapware installed.
You do know that both Adobe apps and Office apps are natively available for Mac? Games are still a problem though, but you can dual-boot just for games.
