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> The whole thing should be viewed as a horrific embarrassment

Even if her problems are something which can easier provoke empathy in readers here (as in "I could be her") they are insignificant compared to the problems of the people in Iraq in which they are as the effect of the political decisions of the government for which we assume that it did what its duty is and which got the wide support for the war: the US government which according to their own press statements did this "to bring democracy" and "because of WMD" in Iraq. It turned out there were no WMD there and that the "proofs" were a lie.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/20/george_w_bushs_cia_briefer_a...

The US soldiers who were there are probably the most credible source to talk about what they've actually brought there. For the current results just look at the map that includes ISIS controlled territories:

https://pietervanostaeyen.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/img_50...

And the statistics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraqi_insurg...

Not to mention neighboring Syria and what's left from the country there.

Are we able to have empathy for the people there too?



Its not about democracy. What the US govt did is fool its citizens by telling them they were going to war over wmd and democracy. US is protecting saudi govt which is not a democracy. And usa did overthrow a democratically elected Iranian govt. So much for wanting to give people democracy.

US has no business meddling in other soverign nation's affair. That nation has people who will bring about a change if they really want change. US doesn't need to force democracy on those people as it ends up only destabilizing the whole region. Trying to change too much at once never flies. Not to forget democracy isn't even the ideal form of govt, especially when US itself isn't improving its own democratic process. First improve things at home.

Its real pity some citizens had to go through this much pain to bring to light illegal mass surveillance activity. I fail to see any difference between an oppressive govt and us govt now a days. This is becoming an orwellian nightmare.


by whole thing I meant the iraq war + downstream consequences; sorry I wasn't clear




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