I'm pretty sure that the government will not let this become mainstream. There's...

ivankirigin · on June 2, 2008

You should follow the Pirate Bay. They've been very good at avoiding arrest.

Making a sea-steading country is also a good solution. If your servers live there, and can connect to everyone else, it will work.

mattmaroon · on June 2, 2008

Ha, sea-steading still seems a little out there. They still have to connect to everyone else through an actual country.

I don't know how TPB has lasted as long as they have. It is impressive.

ivankirigin · on June 3, 2008

Darknet fiber is the way to go. But I don't know enough about internet backbones.

I do know that the side benefits of starting your own country could easily finance it. Surprisingly, this is somewhat relevant to Tipjoy if you go out on a long enough timeline.

kf · on June 3, 2008

If you ever have billions of dollars it becomes extremely economical and even moral to stage a takeover of Equatorial Guinea (a real, wealthy country with an evil dictator that CIA/MI6 wants deposed). Just to keep in the back of your mind.

ivankirigin · on June 4, 2008

Then you have to deal with people.

I think of population of a new country a lot like hiring. You want only the best if you're really trying something new.

Most countries ripe for revolution probably wouldn't be stable enough for the goals. It's like Woody Allen quipped "I just don't want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member"

abstractbill · on June 2, 2008

They still have to connect to everyone else through an actual country.

I'm not sure if you were meaning "connect" physically, but of course there's always satellites, and other non-physical ways to connect.

kf · on June 2, 2008

If The Pirate Bay can just get three or four satellites up there, we'll all be set, at least until the US shoots them down.

Realistically though, satellite internet is just too expensive bandwidth wise for it to work for the Pirate Bay.

kf · on June 3, 2008

Perhaps more realistic would be terrestrial broadcast on illegal reserved frequencies. That really might bring military intervention, since the military owns a lot of those frequencies... but it sure would be nice for the people to take back our airwaves.