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How to find the right designer (attackofdesign.com)
63 points by sgrove on June 7, 2011 | hide | past | favorite | 27 comments


i used this exact method to find the designer i hired about a month ago.

overall, it worked out, but it was a frustrating process. i was aiming for some specifics: a female designer who was up to date on HTML5/CSS3 and ideally had some wedding stuff in her portfolio.

i probably contacted no less than 25 people (through their websites) over the course of two weeks, and was met with either a lack of response, note saying they weren't accepting work, couldn't start soon enough, or for one reason or another i reconsidered.

eventually i found someone who is now doing some really great work, but it wasn't a fast process.

it's important to carefully check out portfolios, because while most things look good on Dribbble, a nice icon or logo doesn't necessarily translate into solid web design skill. i spent a lot of time validating pages (and pages linked in their portfolio), looking for design elements i liked and didn't like, and overall indications that they'd be good for me to work with. that way, once i hired my designer, i knew what to look out for (e.g. press the issue of validating HTML).

all in all -- Dribbble was a good place to find designers, but i still had to do diligence on my end to find the right one for my project. that's basically echoing the point of the article, but it's worth repeating.


I'm curious: are there reasons you were searching for a female designer specifically? (Unless I'm misinterpreting that sentence, that is.)


yup. i'm working on a site for weddings and wanted a female perspective


Contacting 25 people before finding the right one seems like a lot, but you did have very restrictive criteria.

I guess my point is that Dribbble is the best starting point, not because it makes the search easy (it doesn't), but just because it has the best designers. It's a bit like mining for diamonds instead of copper: diamonds are harder to find, but also more valuable.


Dribbble? Really?

Dribbble is neat and all, but using it to find a designer is like picking a book by looking at the lower lefthand corner of the cover--it doesn't tell you anything. You might find a designer who is good at fancy effects in photoshop, but it won't tell you much about UX, architecture, coding experience, etc.

Dribbble could be the start of your browsing experience, but should by no means be viewed as the go-to place.


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Same with Dribbble. All good designers have links to their portfolios full of uncropped samples of their work. Most of good designers on Dribbble also have Pro accounts meaning that their "shots" typically have full-size versions attached to them and the shots are organized into the projects.

Nobody is saying that one needs to pick a designer because of that one 400x300 shot that looks awesome. What the OP meant is that Dribbble is a great visual directory of a metric ton of really good designers.


Thanks for explaining my own point better than I could!


I'm not looking for ux/architecture/coding when hiring a designer.


Dribbble will show you someone's process across multiple projects, and give you some perspective on their work through other designer's comments.

I stand by my affirmation that it's the single best place to find a designer.


Designers live and die by their portfolio.


Where can you go to look for a UX/UI designer that can help with the usability of your website? Dribble is ok to showcase a nice logo, a nice button etc, but fails for non-cosmetic driven design.


Quick plug: I'm working on a startup called Lean Designs to help developers who struggle with web design create beautiful sites. In a nutshell, it's an HTML5-based WYSIWYG editor that exports to professional HTML/CSS. I invite you all to check it out:

http://www.leandesigns.com


Even if you never become a customer, watching Lean Designs develop via its blog is amazing! It's too bad LD will be a huge success because matt1 is a programmer I'd love to have on my team.


As a designer I found the article a bit of a throw away. Firstly designer can describe a wide range of talent — anybody from a branding expert to an HTML/CSS production jockey. The way you'd search for each of those roles is quite different, it's like the difference between a Unix admin and a Object C programmer who knows iOS.

I think the main problem that many non-designers have when hiring talent is that they don't understand the process of a designer, so they don't know how to manage a designer. I also think there's the sin of going the cheap route and then being unhappy with the results.


What about designers who can code? I think that's a major consideration in hiring a web designer.

If you get one who can't code, how well do they understand what is possible or easy in the browser? How well will they work with the coder you have to hire?

A lot of times you can get a decent frontend person who designs and codes for less than you can hire a coder and a designer.


Depends on what you want them to code. Any great designer who works on the web can write HTML & CSS, else they're not a great designer. If you want them to know Rails, Python, or PHP and help you with middle-tier integration, then that's probably a more difficult task.


I agree that great web designers generally can write HTML & CSS, but that doesn't mean that they will actually do it for you.

I don't especially enjoy coding HTML/CSS, so I only do it for my own personal projects, not for clients.


"Any great designer who works on the web can write HTML & CSS, else they're not a great designer."

Couldn't disagree more. I've worked with so many amazing interactive designers at agencies who didn't know much about coding but because of the division of labor managed to execute some killer sites.

I'm not arguing that designers like myself shouldn't know code but rather that amazing web designers who don't know code do exist.


You can't design for the web (or for any medium) without knowing its constraints. If a "web designer" doesn't know HTML or CSS then how can they adequately design for the web as a platform when they don't know how it works?


Because they use the web everyday.

At my old company, we taught designers contraints about web elements and what could typically be styled and executed. This relationship between front-end dev and web designer was pretty key. I never coded but because of my usage of the web, I knew the constraints.

Those designers ended up designing some of the most used sites in the United States.

When working at an agency, one rarely ever touches code because the client either has a team to deal with it OR there are full-time front-end devs.

But hey, if those designers who multiplied revenue for ecommerce sites and increased viewership for content sites are bad web designers, then I'll take those scrubs anyday.


I've seen a lot of "web designer" who treat a website like a regular printing product. Only really understanding the constrains and the possibilities enables you to stuff that is really built for the web, not adapted to it. I think it would be rather unlikely for a designer w/o any coding expirience to think of stuff like this: http://www.designmadeingermany.de/magazin/5/


Depends on if they have web design experience. Numerous agencies employ web designers with no coding experience who have a lot of experience with doing major site work.

Personally, I prefer hiring stellar web designers and stellar front-end devs than trying to find someone who can do both to same degree (since it's extremely hard to find).


Well, the more you expect from a single person the more you'll need to pay them.

If you want to find a designer that can create your logo, design your UI, and code the HTML/CSS/JS on top of that (and who's good at all three), expect to spend a lot of time searching for them, and once you'll find them they won't be cheap.


Coroflot.com and behance.net are good resources too.

Generally speaking, talented designers (and hackers) enjoy working on interesting projects. If your idea is better than anything they're currently working on, they might work for equity. That's how I approach it anyway.


If you're looking to hire a logo or icon designer, Dribble is the place to be. However, crafting the perfect 300x400 teaser has little to do with web design.

Do you want to hire a window decorator, or someone who will help you solve the hard problem of making your app easier to use? Think carefully. You might not want a real web designer. A graphic designer is certainly a safer hire--they won't futz with your codebase, anyway!


The truth of the matter is that Dribbble has the best designers out there. And yes, that includes great user experience designers (http://dribbble.com/rogie), and even great front-end coders (http://dribbble.com/simurai).

I think a lot of people mistakenly assume that a "user experience designer" has to create ugly mockups and clumsy prototypes. The best user experience designers are just designers that do their job well.


There's a decent mix of dev/design talent on Forrst




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