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Are North Korea and Russia "allies" of the US?


Is the UK a US ally? Is Japan?

If you only focus on one country for some strange reason that you can't explain, people are going to notice. That shouldn't surprise you.


Does the UK or Japan engage in election meddling in the US?


Nearly every country does it, in nearly every other country. That's well known fact at this point. The US government is openly, actively, warning American citizens about it. FOIA continues to reveal clandestine ops including faked terror attacks that happened (and are probably still happening) all over the world.

What does that have to do with Israel?


Are you asking what A) the countries that meddle with US elections, and B) their relationship to the US, has to do with Israel, on this comment thread?


You've lost me. I took your line of questioning as suggestive of the idea that this kind of spying behavior is somehow unique to Israel.

It's not. And my larger point is that when someone hyper focuses and targets for grouping and prejudice a group of otherwise ordinary people, they shouldn't be surprised when they are called out for it.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Feel free to clarify.


Not recently, but there are things like this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50752217 and there have been claims the UK interfered in American politics in about 1940 to get US support in WW2.


Maybe US OFAC has missed one particular state


Russians do not do that. It is contrary to our culture.

There was a lord (knyaz) in old times who even warned enemies that he is going to attack them. Of course it is not as advantageous as a covert approach. But it is very Russian.

When you hear otherwise it is those other entities targeting you, that's all.


Russia’s involvement with foreign assets is pretty well-documented. Maybe not on a hysterical level where someone believes Russian government stole elections in USA, but they definitely meddled and continue to meddle in affairs of neighbouring countries and EU, both through information campaigns and via direct actions and influence.

Talking about stuff from early Middle Ages (князи), it has zero relevance to modern culture. Russia is anything but isolationist as it should be clear since 2014/2022.


Games three-letter agencies play are the same everywhere and have zero relation to the culture. 2016 meddling did happen of course. It was also negligible and led to a huge overreaction, extremely similar to the US meddling in Russian elections in 1996 where Clinton admin indirectly prevented Nemtsov from running by supporting unpopular Yeltsin (and NGOs did a ton of "work" which barely affected anything, the main reason Yeltsin won was Filatov running the campaign, oversized spending and collusion with the media aka Xerox affair, and the "admin resource" he had).


There are three options:

1. Israel is doing this in an outsized way compared to everyone else

2. Israel is extremely poor at doing it because it keeps getting caught

3. All the reporting is controlled by the antisemitic media conglomerates ruled by a shadowy council funded by Qatari money

I expect you to deny 1, 2 is an impossibility to you, 3 is the most likely I'd hear even though it's highly reminiscent of something...

Looking forward to option 4. I hope it's something more original than shouting "blood libel!".


False trichotomy 4. Small amount of people make sure to look and echo everything that paint Israel in bad light and this work, we know this work because this entire post is about a company (small amount of people) influencing New York and Scotland votes.

Also it is entirely possible all 1+2+4 hold


Seeing as billions upon billions of dollars goes into Israel's lobbying operations (including countless more from non-affiliated but pro-Israeli groups), that must be the least successful industry ever to be outclassed by a small number of random guys online.


That's just option 3.


Your inability to distinguish "Small amount of people make sure to look and echo everything" and "All the reporting is controlled by the antisemitic media conglomerates" is noted




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