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America hasn't bankrupted itself "raising the children of others". America has accepted others into its family, and grown stronger and wealthier because of it.

Thomas Paine: immigrant

Andrew Carnegie: immigrant

Nikola Tesla: immigrant

Igor Sikorsky: immigrant

Albert Einstein: immigrant

Cary Grant: immigrant

William Shockley (co-inventor of the transistor): immigrant

Wernher Von Braun: immigrant

Eddie Van Halen: immigrant

Elon Musk: immigrant

America is a nation of immigrants. They have helped define our identity, our values, and our laws from the very beginning, and they have built and enriched America to an incalculable degree. And not just inconsequential parts of America, entire industries have been founded on their work (Tesla, Sikorsky, Shockley), and historic, nation-defining projects have relied on their work (Paine, Alexander Hamilton, Von Braun). Immigrants are Americans, period.


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You seem to forget that, for example, many of those immigrants supported slavery and brought in many immigrants from Africa.

Or that Texas was once part of Mexico and a bunch of illegal immigrants from the U.S. there declared its independence (and later joined the U.S.).

Or the loads of Chinese that worked on the west expansion (and multiple waves later) whose "assimilation" was nothing close to easy.


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I didn't take the time to look up all 19, but the ringleaders (Mohamed Atta, et. al.) entered on nonimmigrant visas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_...


Talk about throwing the baby with the bathwater.

You will always have some bad apples.


What appears to be bizarre racist paranoia aside, allowing skilled workers to stay here helps America both economically and culturally. Lawyers and Software Engineers aren't coming here to mooch off America's welfare system (which sucks anyways), they're coming here to contribute and they usually have more to offer than native-born racists.


"it is more than a marketplace, it is a /home/ built by North-Western European ancestors for the benefit of their progeny"

So... straight up racism is your explanation. Got it. Was there really a need to write so many words to couch your racist views?


I assume that you can prove that your ancestors migrated here legally.


They got papers from the indian tribes of that time.


If that were truly the rationale behind the current system, presumably we'd have no limits to "North-Western European" immigrants and not let in the others, which is not actually what we're doing.


Actually YOUR racist nation (that genocides the first nations) is bankrupting other countries: - brain drains is stilling public investment in education from other developed countries - cheap labor force that have kids is a transfer of the capacity to pay retirements in other countries to pay yours ... Actual immigrations are a pure theft that benefits only the wealthiests, local and immigrants alike.

Immigration producing macro economically a gross benefit nation that can afford it should compensate.

In our time and place I would propose the destination country compensate in debt erasure.


Our racist nation that has president who the son of an Kenyan, has present and fmr state govs that were born to immigrant parents, the head of one of the largest tech companies is from India.

What other nations have this? very few.

We have some shameful history no doubt but keep it in context to other nations.

With your reasoning it is good the author can't get a visa and may return his brain to New Zealand.


Your president's ideology is American Exceptionalism which he uses to give grounds for the murder, rape and torture of all non-Americans, and daily acts of terrorism and genocide in Afghanistan, Yemen, and Pakistan. American Exceptionalists are racist regardless of the color of their skin.


The rest of your bizarre rant aside, this...

>> it is a /home/ built by North-Western European ancestors for the benefit of their progeny

... is historically ignorant.


I was going to reply but then I saw your comment history. Wow...

On the bright side I guess HNs has a very diverse community -that includes racist hackers.


Your viewpoint would be quite acceptable in liberal US politics if you would just replace "America" with "Israel" and "North-Western European" with "Jewish".




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